Jim Lee

Justice League #1 Variant Covers

DC has released the variant covers for Justice League #1. There are two different covers,  the normal one by Jim Lee and a variant by David Finch. To confuse matters more each of those covers also appears as two-variants. The Jim Lee version has a blue background on the normal issue and a yellow background on the combo-pack issues (the one containing the voucher for a digital copy). The Finch cover is a 1:25 variant. I really can’t say I’m taken with the Finch cover, they all look so grumpy. I prefer the smiling image from Ivan Reis ‘s NYCC poster.

All of them the covers now show Wonder Woman without any leggings. Putting aside the sexism issue, I just don’t think it looks right. The redesigns had been done to make the League looked more team-like, but they are now making WW look less like the other characters (who all have full-length leggings).

The colouring doesn’t help. The original WW costume had blue-shorts and red-boots. In reality we know that it’s a completely unrealistic outfit, but we are so used to it – because its been there for 70-years – that we don’t usually think about it. This new WW costume with its black-shorts and black-boots is, in my thinking, enough of an alteration to break that 70-year blind-spot and make us realise how odd it actually looks. It also doesn’t help that we’ve had the JMS full-length leggings in place for a year or so. If you’ve read Wonder Woman #613 you’ll have seen both WW costumes side-by-side and neither of them looks wrong. Yet this hybrid version just doesn’t work as well as either the classic or the previous version.

I feel a similar way on Superman’s costume. The segmentation of the suit doesn’t bother me so much as the change in colouring on the belt and trunks. Look again at Superman’s new costume and you’ll see that he’s still wearing trunks as that part of his suit, they are still outlined by a segmentation line. As a defined area of his costume it still exists. That red-belt just clashes against so much blue. Red-and-yellow against blue or red-and-black against blue works because the three colours create a balance, but just red on its own looks garish.

Justice League panel at SDCC 2011

DC has separating its new 52 books out into distinct brands (“Edge”, “Dark”, “Young Justice”, etc) and this panel was focused on the Justice League line of books (tagline “Worlds Greatest Super Heroes”). This naturally includes Justice League (writer Geoff Johns and aritist Jim Lee) and Justice League International (writer Dan Jurgens), but also books like Captain Atom (JT Krul), Green Arrow (writer JT Krul, artist Jurgens), Hawkman (artist Philip Tan), Flash (Francis Manapul and Brian Buccellato), Mister Terrific (writer Eric Wallace), were also present – plus Johns in his capacity as the writer of Aquaman and Green Lantern. The panel was moderated by DC’s Senior Vice-President of Sales Bob Wayne and Executive Editor Eddie Berganza.

You can find an MP3 download podcast of the panel on DC’s website. There were quite a few creators present, but the JLI and JLI books took up most of the discussion.

Justice League

Jim Lee introduced the Justice League:

It’s been a real delight working with Geoff [Johns], we’ve talked about working together for a long time. And it’s great to be on a team book again, honestly. I’ve been working on single character books for a long time. All those characters have side kicks and foils and things like that to interact with, but it’s predominantly a single flavour that you get out of Superman or Batman. Doing a team book gives you a completely different dynamic. It’s all about the interaction between all these iconic characters and Geoff is just a master at exploring the personalities behind the masks. The characters have different ideologies and personalities, it’s great having that interaction between characters like Batman and Green Lantern.

There is a lot of humour, I actually laugh a lot each time I read the script, probably in places I’m not supposed to be. I always learn something working with new writers for the first time, he’s [Geoff] really brought out the humanity in these characters. I hope you guys get a kick out of it.

Later in the Aquaman segment Geoff Johns touched on the humour element.

I’m really trying to inject some humour into all my books this time around from Justice League, to Aquaman, to Green Lantern get back to, instead of superheroes talking with other superheroes all the time, have superheroes interacting with real people.

Geoff on Hawkman:

He’s also a member of the Justice League. Everybody’s having a meeting and they’re all talking and a big mace falls on the table. They look up and Hawkman’s there. He sits down and goes “don’t worry, it’s not my blood!

How Cyborg can be a founding member of the Justice League given that he was originally a the Teen Titans character will be addressed in Justice League. Adding Cyborg to the team is about shaking things up, Geoff Johns said that:

I didn’t want to do the same seven that everybody predicts. The Martian Manhunter, well you’ll see where the Martian Manhunter is at, in the storyline, the origin, but, I like Cyborg, I think he’s a great character. I’ve written him for years and years in the Titans and Flash and I really think he’s a modern-day superhero. I don’t know if anybody in here doesn’t have an online identity, but he’s online and offline all the time.

Jim Lee was asked whether the Justice League costumes were “Paul Gambini originals?”

The design on Justice League. We wanted them to be obviously a team and we had a chance to design the costumes in a way that subtly suggests that they are team-like  so there are similarities between the costumes. The high collars, I just think they look more regal more majestic. If you look at a lot of the more open-collar costumes, like Superman and Aquaman, [they] harken back to the late 1930s and 40s strongman kind of appearance. So it was just giving it an update.

It was also noted that Ivan Reis had put that a high collar on Aquaman before Jim Lee came to do the JLA costume redesign.

Another questioner brought up the Manhunter issue and Johns reiterated that J’onzz’s status will be addressed somewhere in the first arc (“there is a story to be had there”), but from a larger perspective there is an in-universe reason in the New 52 as to why there is only one alien (to wit Superman) on the Justice League. Geoff jokes that “When everybody see him they’re like “its a Martian!” and Hal’s like “hey dude”. The Manhunter will be in Paul Cornell’s Stormwatch.

Other questions:

  • Why isn’t Dick Grayson carried over in a team, even through he’s now Nightwing? Johns said that Nightwing was left out of the Justice League explicitly because he was such a good team player – an anti-social Batman makes for more interesting drama.
  • A woman questioner commented that condensing the DC timeline into five years must make it “really traumatic five years” for those who had to live through it. Geoff Johns said that would be addressed.
  • We’ll be getting new villains in JL. Something like the Legion of Doom, but not called the Legion of Doom, will show up Justice League next year.

Justice League International

Dan Jurgens introduced the new Justice League International:

The Justice League International is an officially United Nations sponsored group [that is] in part is a reaction to the JLA. Batman, Rocket Red, Fire, August General in Iron, Booster, Guy (kinda of in and out a little bit), Vixen, Ice, and its going to be a bit of a rotating membership. Because some of these guys think – and when I say “Guys” is that a clue – some of these guys might think that they deserve to be in a somewhat better group than JLI. So there is a little bit of coming and going as the roster changes and rotates, but it is a group that is put together in direct response to the JLA.

Aaron Lopresti is doing incredible artwork on this book, he’s knocked the ball out of the park page after page. It’s a lot of big open stuff as I think this page shows [the coloured page] and its one of those things that we’re really trying to bring back, I think a lot of action and movement into the DC Universe, lots of big visuals, lots of fun stuff. As you can see here too [surprised as second JLI page is shown], as we continue on JLI. Not yet coloured, but Aaron and inker Matt Ryan are really going fabulous work on this. There is just tremendous characterisation that is coming through in their artwork, all the figure work, and everything they do.

On the Batman’s inclusion in both teams:

With JLI – I’ve got to figure how to do without giving too much away – let’s put it this way: JLI is a sponsored United Nations organisation that it put together in response to the JLA right? Well the JLA kinda thinks that they have somebody attached to their team that the United Nations knows nothing about. So he’s [Batman] kind of the bridge between the two teams and it’s not like the Batman would ever do what the UN tells him to. So he’s there because he thinks that’s where he should be and building a bit of a conduit between the two groups.

Dan Jurgens later brought the JLI cover back up and pointed out that none of the characters, with the exception of Batman, were wearing masks:

One of the things we’re building in the new DC Universe, as it pertains to this group, is the idea that all these people are much more known than typical, and remember I said that Batman was there without the UN’s permission. They went though an exercise that said we don’t want people with masks and identities we don’t necessarily know, and we sure don’t want any aliens.

Diversity

Issues about of the new line’s diversity was raised several times. Mister Terrific’s Eric Wallace stressed that the drive to increase diversity wasn’t limited to the headline characters, but there was also effort put in to increase the diversity of the supporting casts and the background characters.

The questions about diversity also prompted responses that revealed details that various writers may otherwise have held off until their books would have appeared. Dan Jurgens said that August-General-In-Iron had become one of his favourite characters in the JLI book. Geoff teased that there was a “smaller” character in Justice League who rhymed with “batom” (pretty much telegraphing that the Ryan Choi version of the Atom was to make an appearance).

There was an interesting and slightly tense debate on the prominence of, or lack of, women in the new DCU. This led Geoff to claim that DC has “by far and away more iconic and stronger female superheroes than any other company out there.” The questioner countered that most of those were “Girl” representations of “Man” characters and not adult “Women”. She made several very good points and the panel struggled to convince her that things were being addressed.

Just from my own survey of the Justice League books – Justice League International and Dark are both 50% male/female. The flagship JL title isn’t so balanced as it looks like just Wonder Woman, but there are other characters like Mera and Element Woman, who we haven’t seen yet so we may have to wait to pass judgement on that one.

It was unfortunate that Bob Wayne had to silence the audience at one point.

Justice League (vol. 2) #1 Preview

This week DC Comics published our first look at the new post-Flashpoint Justice League as part of a special DC Comics The New 52 supplement which was shipped free to comic stores and was given out at SDCC 2011. A version was posted online, but lacked the lettering which was included in the print version. The full lettered version can be found below.

A few observations

  • The caption says “Five Years Ago” which marks a halving of the canonical 10-year sliding time line that’s been in place since Zero-Hour.
  • Batman is circa Frank Miller’s Batman: Year One, e.g. he’s being hunted by SWAT teams in helicopters. He appears to still be an urban-legend again in this era.
  • The highlighted knuckles on his gloves and the general look of the Batman redesign is very much like that seen in Batman: Arkham Asylum.
  • The monster Batman is hunting down looks very much like one of Darkseid’s Parademons.
  • Hal Jordan’s Green Lantern costume has the tunic length green-top he sported in Green Lantern: Rebirth and not the full body Gil Kane original from 1959.
  • I like the way that Hal assembles the fire truck construct, he builds it out of its component parts as he throw’s it at the monster. You can still see the back of it being assembled as the front hits ugly.

6-Page Preview

Brave and the Bold (vol. 1) #28 – The Cover

Brave and the Bold (vol. 1) #28 was the comic book that launched the Justice League, but it’s also one got of those classic covers that gets continually aped and copied. Here are a ten recreations, homages, and pastiches of that classic cover.

0. Mike Sekowsky -- The Original

This is the original on the left and the Justice League Archives vol. 1 recolouring on the right. The tones are nicely matched, but there is something about the original – the depth of the colours and the patina of age – that makes it truly fantastic.

1. Alex Ross -- Justice League Secret Origins

Superstar painter Alex Ross did this reverse perspective flashback to BB #28 for his Justice League tabloid with writer Paul Dini.

2. Mattel 2010 SDCC Exclusive

As a promotional offering for last years San Diego Comic Con Mattel produced a special Justice League and Starro boxed-set with special sound effects recorded by Kevin Conroy (Batman from Batman: The Animated Series).

3. Run Frenz & Sal Buscema -- Alter Ego #33

Alter Ego use to have two covers, one for the Golden Age half and one for the Silver Age half. When celibrating JLA artist Mike Sekowsky that had a classic marvel cover showing DC characters and this classic DC Cover shing Marvel’s Human Torch, Submariner, Captain America, and co.

4. John G. Mathews -- Brave and the Bold Statue

From DC Direct’s description: “the cover of THE BRAVE & THE BOLD #28 by Mike Sekowsky and Murphy Anderson (March, 1960) is recreated as a stunning hand-painted, cold-cast porcelain statue, sculpted by John G. Mathews.”

5. Jim Lee -- JLA #50

Upcoming Justice League artist Jim Lee drew the JLA’s encounter with Starro as a variant cover for Justice League of America (vol. 2) #50 (December 2010).

6. Darwyn Cooke -- DC: The New Frontier

Darwyn Cooke’s excellent DC: The New Frontier retold the adventures of DC’s heroes in a setting contemporary to their first published appearances. It cumulated in the heroes coming together as the Justice League and featured a rather special final splash showing the BB #28 encounter with Starro.

That scene also made it into JLA: The New Frontier, the animated adaptation of Cooke’s comic book.

8.Warren Martineck -- JLA Archives sketch card

Warren Martineck is one of the arts who has provided sketch cards for the Justice League Archives Trading Cards. One of those featured the JLA (with JSA) and Starro in a very BB #28 like tussel.

9. Bart -- Sears DC Cosmic Teams 1993

DC Cosmic Teams 1993, the then JLI, fighting Starro by Bart Sears [via: the Bart Sears Checklist]

10. Alé Garza -- Teen Titans #52

Justice League #1 by Johns and Lee

USA Today (retweeted by @DC_Nation) has just confirmed that Geoff Johns and Jim Lee will be taking over Justice League post-Flashpoint. The news was scooped what Bleeding Cool had announced Bleeding Cool a few hours beforehand.

Justice League (vol. 2)

From the USA Today article:

Starting this summer, the publisher will re-number its entire DC Universe of titles, revamping famous characters such as Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and others from its 76-year history for a more modern and diverse 21st century.

The first book to be released under this new era: Justice League No. 1, out Aug. 31, a series by writer Geoff Johns and artist Jim Lee that reunites the famous lineup of Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, The Flash, Wonder Woman and Aquaman.

Johns promises a focus on the interpersonal relationships within DC’s trademark superteam. “What’s the human aspect behind all these costumes?” he says. “That’s what I wanted to explore.”

This should be really good – some of the highlights of Blackest Night were the Barry Allen and Hal Jordan interactions. This will be the second volume to be called just Justice League – the post-Crisis on Infinite Earth series was also called that before it was rebranded as Justice League International (there is a still a previously announced JLI series lurking around somewhere). The JL series launches in the same week as Flashpoint #5.

Updated 01/06/2011: A second USA Today article included more details on the JL series:

Guided by writer Geoff Johns and artist Jim Lee, Justice League will begin its first year with an updated secret origin reflecting DC’s new initiative, giving the group a reason for coming together that it lacked when the league first appeared in 1960. And while it will ultimately boast 14 members, at its core will be DC’s A-list do-gooders: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Lantern and Aquaman.

The original image that DC released was a crop of the above image  and didn’t show the Flash or Cyborg.

Revamp? Reboot?

This is also a revamp.  Jim Lee from the article:

This was a chance to start, not at the beginning, but at a point where our characters are younger and the stories are being told for today’s audience.

In a letter to Comics Retailers DC goes into a bit more detail on the changes:

We are positioning ourselves to tell the most innovative stories with our characters to allow fans to see them from a new angle. We have taken great care in maintaining continuity where most important, but fans will see a new approach to our storytelling.
Some of the characters will have new origins, while others will undergo minor changes. Our characters are always being updated; however, this is the first time all of our characters will be presented in a new way all at once.

A new approach to storytelling? This could very well be as major as the post-Crisis on Infinite Earths reboots or as minor as the post-Infinite Crisis relaunch. I do have concerns about what the status quo will be. I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that I was struggling with my more pessimistic tendencies on this one. I’ve see too many relaunches and reboots at DC before.  I hope it will be brilliant, I know the people involved should ensure that, but we’re really going to have to wait and see how this one plays out.

Day and date digital

The reason for the relaunch given in the article is a complete, linewide shift to day-and-date digital distribution. I read all of Generation Lost digitally so I’m use to it, but they will have to do something about the price point. $2.99 for a digital comic is too high if you don’t have some sort of download to hard-disc option – it’s just too much money to lock into one company’s digital vault.

Prediction for the next few years: Comixology will be bought by somebody big, really big. Given that Amazon bought Audible I could well see them making a play for Comixology, if the digital comics market continues to expand.

Jim Lee JLA variant cover sketches

As part of their 75th Anniversary DC Comics have been producing a series of special variant covers  that pay homage to their greatest, most iconic covers from decades past. The one for JLA hasn’t appeared yet and reason is that Jim Lee has only just started drawing it.

Lee shared several photos of his working pencils on Twitter including this photo:

However, that wasn’t the end of the composition and he remarked

The background was going to be a city in ruin with skyscrapers being knocked back. Destruction galore. But I felt the negative space was too empty. That the composition now felt more like a panel than a cover and that it didn’t homage enough. But I felt the negative space was too empty. That the composition now felt more like a panel than a cover and that it didn’t homage enough.

The variant cover I am doing is part of the 75th anniversary DC homage cvrs http://twitpic.com/2rxuxc. So I went back to original layout…looked at the composition and changed it up as if I were drawing this cvr as I had “imagined” it…

Unfortunately we didn’t get to see the final version. I guess we’ll just have to watch for the 2011 solicitations.

Jim Lee on a JLA book?

Take everything that follows with a liberal dose of “I’ll believe it when I see it.” For sometime there have been rumours that Geoff Johns and Jim Lee are going to collaborate on a Justice League story or title. As usual these rumours come from Rich Johnston at Bleeding Cool. The latest incarnation involves a question asked to Lee at a convention. From Bleeding Cool

Jim Lee was asked by a fan during his panel at the Wizard World Big Apple Comic Con if he would be working on Justice League in the next few months. Lee replied “wouldn’t that be awesome” before saying with a glint that it would be “foolish, foolish” to suggest that a late artist such as himself be given a book with many characters in it, before mentioning that it was very cool now that Hal Jordan and Barry Allen were back… before drifting off and repeating “wouldn’t that be awesome?”

Least we also forget that Lee is now free on his executive obligations at Wildstorm so has time, in a relative sense, to spend on drawing comic books. Unless, that is, he gets hired back as DC’s Publisher (another rumour).

This puts me in mind of another question that was put to Geoff Johns at CBR about his post-Blackest Night work.

[CBR: ] Schluffy wants to know if you’ll be returning to “Action Comics” or any of the other Superman titles after “Secret Origin” is complete?

[Geoff Johns: ]I will not. My stint on Superman ends with “Superman Secret Origin.” The guys have a lot of big plans ahead, but I am going to be focused on the Flash and Green Lantern. Gary Frank and I are moving on to a different project.

So Johns is rumoured to be writing a JLA project with Lee and he’s admitted to another undisclosed future project with Gary Frank. I’d love it if those two things were actually the same project – a JLA companion title in the same vein as Johns’ Action Comics run (a single writer paired with a succession of distinctive, high-profile artists) with Frank and Lee illustrating the first two arcs. Purely fanish pie-in-the-sky, but we can at least dream.

Updated several hours later to add:

CBR have more in depth coverage of the Jim Lee Big Apple Con panel and reproduce Jim’s quote in full:

Lee was asked about rumors that he’d work on a “Justice League of America” comic book within the next year or two. “That’d be awesome,” he answered. “But it’s taken me this long to finish ‘All-Star Batman and Robin,’ so for me to even suggest that I’d work on something else with more than one character on a page would be suicide. It’d be foolish if I said that–but it’d be awesome if that happened! I would love to do it, but I want to get ‘All-Star Batman and Robin’ done first.”

That sounds far less definite than the BC story, but the self-deprecation aside I still think he could do it if his schedule was clear enough.